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Rinalfie


Joined: 10/15/2009 02:50:48
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I have Shift on PC, haven't really noticed any crazy bouncing other than when I go offroad..

Having said that I haven't used a wide variety of cars yet, as I'm fairly new to the game.

Only 'erratic behavior' I get is the awful frame rate no matter what I do. Gets as low as 12fps sometimes..
RKipker

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CC_SUB.ProjD989 wrote:I would like to know for what system you noticed this problem? I am on PC and not as far as you so I can say for sure if this is the case.


I started noticing this in the NFS World Tour level... not as bad until I got into the higher levels... hope this can be corrected, as it's horrible

Edit:

I was running the Porsche GT2 max'ed out with all extras. suspension settings would not correct.

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Exodus Bro


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Typical EA B.S. They take no pride in their work anymore. Shift has so much potiental to be a great game. To bad all the bugs, poor and inconsistant physics, and lack of support for EA really wrecks this game. The bouncing is awfull to say the least. The magnetic walls, and grass/sand. I love how you basically have no control at all once you leave the road, even when you complete turned one direction going slow, the car still goes the opposite. Then other times it works fine. The AI drives like they are in a demolition derby most of the time.
Hello EA!!! Why do yo never listen to anyone???????? Such a good game Shift is, but riddled by problems, and there is really no excuse for it.
crazyhorsedk09


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lets just put it this way
i gave up on connecting to ea nation after 2 hrs of sitting at *connecting to ea nation*
whats up with that ???????
not to mention the serial number in my cd case kept saying INVALID
TGM OverLord


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nfs_web.Exodus Bro wrote:Typical EA B.S. They take no pride in their work anymore. Shift has so much potiental to be a great game. To bad all the bugs, poor and inconsistant physics, and lack of support for EA really wrecks this game. The bouncing is awfull to say the least. The magnetic walls, and grass/sand. I love how you basically have no control at all once you leave the road, even when you complete turned one direction going slow, the car still goes the opposite. Then other times it works fine. The AI drives like they are in a demolition derby most of the time.
Hello EA!!! Why do yo never listen to anyone???????? Such a good game Shift is, but riddled by problems, and there is really no excuse for it.


I know, last night I was playing the Porsche GT2 London River race, and it was hilarious, just a bouncing, sliding, concoction that just ended up as a Smash Em Up Derby and Wall Ride event!!

Got to love how the cars start bouncing and yawing and pitching all of a sudden at speed too, when there are no apparent bumps in the road!!

Oh I have tried too, I spent over two hours trying to tune a Audi R8 for Autopolis GT.... Do you think I could get the bumping and sliding to stop? Any change I made I got a worse result, full understeer, full soft, nothing could stop the sliding and bouncing...

So sad, this game had so much potential!

Anyway, this has served it's purpose, FM3 comes out next week and this will all be behind me...
Shinzok

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I might know the Cause of why this is happening. but I'm not sure.

I've only noticed this when suddenly releasing my throttle and then re-applying it. it also happends when one goes off track into sand/grass and gives full throttle. (ehm release the throttle to have it stop bouncing).

This gets more of a problem when you upgrade the car, cause you increase the performance of it so much that as in real life: if ya press full throttle and then release it quickly and then apply it quickly, your car will also start to bounce. (maybe you should try it sometimes. If ya accellerate the front of car will become higher than what it was, and same goes for braking, your front of car will drop in height. if you repeat the whole process of full throttle-brake-full throttle-brake the car will start bouncing also.)

Now I don't know why it starts to bounce when one goes off the track (sand/grass and stuff) but it could be because of the handling settings of the car.

example: If the rebound rate of springs is high, but springs are also set on soft. this could be making the bouncing worse than the normal setup of the car.

OR atleast this is what I think is why cars bounce.

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zBobG


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First of all, bump is spring compression and rebound is spring extension.

Bump and Rebound settings refer to damping of the spring oscillation.

I think it helps to have rather more (stiff) rebound damping than bump damping.

So, set the rebound to a couple of notches stiffer than the bump setting.

Also tailor the settings based on the position of the engine. On a front engine car the front settings need to be (could be) stiffer than the rear settings by a notch or two. For a mid engine car it might be best to have symmetrical front/rear settings unless you are after a certain kind of handling as when modifying the oversteer.
X-THE_FREAK-X


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Hi everyone,

We are aware that a lot of people are having similar issues and we are looking into it. In the meantime, everybody who is experiencing this problem please post about in in this thread.

Thanks!

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hey guys

why you dont do eny thing about it eny way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ther is many problem whit this game!!!
1: my zonda is somtims out of control dont turn when i triy and starts jumping around.
2: my lap times dont gets save on the lederboard ore listet in quik race no matter if i race in quik race online ranking ore unranking.
3: ther are alot off 0:00,000 times on the lederboard
4: my setup changes big time when i go onlien to race lost of grip ore my top speed are changing.
5: i get a cut corne penalti when i get pust off track on the outside of the corner=lost off time and i still get a penalty why???
6: i think ther cut be a option namt gost car when i race online sove other people cant cras me an i cant cras them
7: ther is bouncing problem whit ford gt, porsche gt2 an gt3
8: my viper cant drive anywher dont now why but it dont gowe in to gear
9: my R2 and L2 butten stop woorking in visual setup but woorks evry wher els.
10: somtimes when i gove to online racing i dont see my car at all. nothing on my scren at all from my car i cant see the race and drive but dont see my car ore speedomerder ect.
11: tryid 5 times my car just whent i slowmotion

just some off the problems i found

i have try to send EA support a emal 2 days agov telling them about thes problems an asking for a reply but i dont hear from them..........

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999Terminator


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Hi,

May I make a couple of suggestions... (I apologise ,in advance, if they have already been said before).
For those that are suffering "the bounce":-

1Q: Are you using a force feedback controller or not?
2Q: Have you ever driven a REAL high performance vehicle, at high speed, on a proper race track?

The reason I ask is, I have a theory that:

1A: If you are NOT using a force feedback controller, you are unable to "feel" the bounces, and without this sensory experience the visual bouncing seems odd, however WITH a force feedback controller your brain "understands" the visual bouncing is normal - as it goes with the feel of the steering, and it makes sense to your brain.
2A: Driving most high performance vehicles (on a race track) especially at very high speed, you DO get this phenomenom occurring. It can be due to suspension settings being out for that particular track surface, uneven track, and when cornering due to LSD effect and "axle tramp", and a whole lot of terribly technical reasons.

For those of you who have NEVER driven a real vehicle, ANY vehicle, (i.e. if you are too young, or have no licence) how can you expect to understand the bounce?

Anyway, I've had my say.
All I can say is I have had experience of these situations (in real life), and although "the bounce" may be slightly exaggerated, the effect is pretty realistic.

JazzyG_85


Joined: 10/25/2009 04:34:21
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This is definitely a problem, not a result of realistic physics!

I managed to complete the invitational event at Spa in the Carrera because I guessed, as I've read here that there is a problem carrying over the physics of your current car to the Carrera.

My car was an RX-8 tuned to stage 3 and was fine on other races. When I did the invitational I got a lot of bouncing. I went to my garage and changed the tuning on my RX-8 and the response of the carrera changed, not enough to be driveable though!

What I did was go out and buy a tier 3 car (LP640 in my case). I didn't change the tuning at all and all of a sudden the Carrera was MUCH better at Spa - still a little bumpy through a couple of corners but to a manageable degree, except for corner 1 where you just have to take it very easy!

Hope that helps. In short, this is a bug - the videos people have posted prove this. It results from the physics of your currently selected car affecting the invitational car, and you can help it by making sure you're driving a car of a similar ilk in terms of performance (i.e. tier) rather than a modified lower tier car. At least this worked for me.

please fix this EA!
Spink


Joined: 10/25/2009 21:20:37
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Day by day I search for an update for my PC version, day by day I'm disappointed.

I'm always reluctant to buy an EA title, and this just confirms it. How do I go about getting my money back?

Sigh. This game is rad, too bad it sucks because you can't play tier 4 cars and up. Very Very Frustrating! How was this missed in Beta?
Spink


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999Terminator wrote:Hi,

May I make a couple of suggestions... (I apologise ,in advance, if they have already been said before).
For those that are suffering "the bounce":-

1Q: Are you using a force feedback controller or not?
2Q: Have you ever driven a REAL high performance vehicle, at high speed, on a proper race track?

The reason I ask is, I have a theory that:

1A: If you are NOT using a force feedback controller, you are unable to "feel" the bounces, and without this sensory experience the visual bouncing seems odd, however WITH a force feedback controller your brain "understands" the visual bouncing is normal - as it goes with the feel of the steering, and it makes sense to your brain.
2A: Driving most high performance vehicles (on a race track) especially at very high speed, you DO get this phenomenom occurring. It can be due to suspension settings being out for that particular track surface, uneven track, and when cornering due to LSD effect and "axle tramp", and a whole lot of terribly technical reasons.

For those of you who have NEVER driven a real vehicle, ANY vehicle, (i.e. if you are too young, or have no licence) how can you expect to understand the bounce?

Anyway, I've had my say.
All I can say is I have had experience of these situations (in real life), and although "the bounce" may be slightly exaggerated, the effect is pretty realistic.


Funny, when I watched "the stig" drive a Carrera Gt, Zonda R and countless other super cars on Top Gear, I didn't once see him "bounce" off the straights while going in a straight line!

Kindly remove your head from your rear and click the following links:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nfs+shift+bounce

http://video.google.com/videosearch?pws=0&q=nfs%20shift%20bounce&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

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hthunderdome


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hello i am playing on xbox 360 and with the dfgt on ps3 ,i hope that they can fix all that irritating bugs,this game
was sure not tested,mayby on tier 1 but then they stopped.
ps3 talks about next gen games,with this one they are far from that

greetings hthunderdome
blak_hoel


Joined: 10/07/2009 18:47:10
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999Terminator wrote:Hi,

May I make a couple of suggestions... (I apologise ,in advance, if they have already been said before).
For those that are suffering "the bounce":-

1Q: Are you using a force feedback controller or not?
2Q: Have you ever driven a REAL high performance vehicle, at high speed, on a proper race track?

The reason I ask is, I have a theory that:

1A: If you are NOT using a force feedback controller, you are unable to "feel" the bounces, and without this sensory experience the visual bouncing seems odd, however WITH a force feedback controller your brain "understands" the visual bouncing is normal - as it goes with the feel of the steering, and it makes sense to your brain.
2A: Driving most high performance vehicles (on a race track) especially at very high speed, you DO get this phenomenom occurring. It can be due to suspension settings being out for that particular track surface, uneven track, and when cornering due to LSD effect and "axle tramp", and a whole lot of terribly technical reasons.

For those of you who have NEVER driven a real vehicle, ANY vehicle, (i.e. if you are too young, or have no licence) how can you expect to understand the bounce?

Anyway, I've had my say.
All I can say is I have had experience of these situations (in real life), and although "the bounce" may be slightly exaggerated, the effect is pretty realistic.


I've watched a lot of car races and never seen cars bounce like that. If thats realism I don't think Porsche is too happy with the portrayal of the Carrera! I drive my Saab quite hard around the ramps and even get the rear out a bit. Ya you'll get some bounce when the tires are on the limit but it's mild and the car is totally controllable. If you are disagreeing with everyone else here, you are a * with a capital D!
alpina71


Joined: 10/31/2009 05:24:11
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Hi everyone,

I liked the game and I don't want this bouncing bug ruin the game playability. I have PC version of the game and the bouncing bug is somehow related to the car selected in your garage that you probably made tuning and upgrades. So the solution is just buy a standart car and dont change anything in it (mine is S3) and select it in your garage, then go the the special events where you drive cars from manufacturers. NO BOUNCING AT ALL.

I did not have bouncing problems that I tune and race, only the performance cars that are given to you have bouncing issue.

Hope this helps everyone who had this annoying problem.

Try it and give me your feedbacks
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